Next weekend, second part of colecting season begins. We will go hunt some trees. I'm so happy, I missed this mountain roamings, and I'm curious what we will found.
why do you begin by now with the Yamadori? why do not you wait till the winter is over from with it the trees can certainly recover this period ? All the same... You will know it ;-)... I am quite gigantic exited what you will find and I am waiting with tension inmy mind for your reports;-) A lot of luck and a good nose for the treasures;-)
Avicenna! Because, now it's time for Mugo, the "king" of European pines. In spring it is very difficult to collect mugo because in May or even in June, the ground can still be frozen on altitudes where mugo growes. And than, in spring, you collect Mugo on 1500 meters above the sea level where is in may 0 or 2-5 celsius and you bring it down to 15-25 celsius. So, that is very much of a stres for the tree, it seems it responds better if collected in early autumn. If collected now, it still has the chance to establish itself before really cold winter arrives. And now, the season is much milder and much more wet. Last years results are fantastic. Almost 100% succes. Greetings S
thanks sebastian ... now I am informed ;-) I did it last year with quercus here in my aerea and the result was that i decide to make yamadori after the winterperiod. But your arguments for pinus mugo is absolutly professional ;-) thanks for that information ;-) saludos avicenna
Avicenna, Quercus is a very spoiled and problematic tree! It has his own specific ideas when wants to be collected. Botanicaly, problem is as it followes...there are few types of trees concerning water transportation in the trunk. Water transporting elements (tubes) are diferent in apearence and time of duration, or how long they remain fisiologicaly active. Unfortunately, Quercus species comes in that group of trees in wich all last years water transporting tubes are dead(ireversible inactive), so this last years tubes cannot transport water to the new growth next year any more. Quercus MUST FORM completly NEW TUBES before active new growth starts in spring. That is the reason that quercuses produce new leaves so late in the spring. The usual mistake is that Quercus is collected too early. In time when buds just start to swell it is probably too early to collect quercus. Because, buds were triggered to swell by strong sun, the swelling buds use stored water in plant tissue while the plant is rushing to form new water transportation elements to "feed" the new growing buds with more water. If you collect quercus too early in spring, it is the case that you took away the chance for the tree to recover. Because, you can water it as much as you like, there's no way that water can reach green growth or new buds. So the tree will be weak for some time, and eventualy, die. That is the reason that some people collect quercus later in the season. Even it is better to collect it in June or July and to leaf cut it totally to prevent dehidration as a result of excesive transpiration in full summer. By that time, the new water tubes in the trunk will be fully active and the tree will have a chance to survive. Bottom line, I don't like quercus very much. Very very difficult animal :) Bye S
One more thing...we experimentally tried to collect qerc in the middle of summer this year and to leaf cut. All this plants are ok untill now and bud strongly everywhere on the trunks. We'll se what the future will bring.
sebastian ...a very professional answer - thanks for that ;-) i try this with the oaks in the same way here ... i like it very much cause its a truely german tree ...with a long history in our country and I like the branching and the bark very much ... anyway ... i cut some thick oaks back in summer and cut also the to superficial roots in the depth of a handsaw length so when I dig them out I only have to cut the tap roots and new roots have buildet in the near superficial trunkaereas. With your professional tip of digging out in the late spring i think they will have a real chance to survive. A lot of luck and a good look for great trees by your yamadoritour. saludos avicenna
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ReplyDeleteVery good yamadori.
Hello you Masters of Yamadori ;-)
ReplyDeletewhy do you begin by now with the Yamadori? why do not you wait till the winter is over from with it the trees can certainly recover this period ? All the same... You will know it ;-)... I am quite gigantic exited what you will find and I am waiting with tension inmy mind for your reports;-)
A lot of luck and a good nose for the treasures;-)
saludos
avicenna
What kind of trees you going to dig? I guess pines, may be other type of conifers?
ReplyDeleteJanos thanks! I'm glad that you like it.
ReplyDeleteAvicenna!
ReplyDeleteBecause, now it's time for Mugo, the "king" of European pines. In spring it is very difficult to collect mugo because in May or even in June, the ground can still be frozen on altitudes where mugo growes. And than, in spring, you collect Mugo on 1500 meters above the sea level where is in may 0 or 2-5 celsius and you bring it down to 15-25 celsius. So, that is very much of a stres for the tree, it seems it responds better if collected in early autumn. If collected now, it still has the chance to establish itself before really cold winter arrives. And now, the season is much milder and much more wet. Last years results are fantastic. Almost 100% succes.
Greetings
S
Maros!
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thanks sebastian ... now I am informed ;-) I did it last year with quercus here in my aerea and the result was that i decide to make yamadori after the winterperiod. But your arguments for pinus mugo is absolutly professional ;-) thanks for that information ;-)
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avicenna
Avicenna, Quercus is a very spoiled and problematic tree! It has his own specific ideas when wants to be collected. Botanicaly, problem is as it followes...there are few types of trees concerning water transportation in the trunk. Water transporting elements (tubes) are diferent in apearence and time of duration, or how long they remain fisiologicaly active. Unfortunately, Quercus species comes in that group of trees in wich all last years water transporting tubes are dead(ireversible inactive), so this last years tubes cannot transport water to the new growth next year any more. Quercus MUST FORM completly NEW TUBES before active new growth starts in spring. That is the reason that quercuses produce new leaves so late in the spring. The usual mistake is that Quercus is collected too early. In time when buds just start to swell it is probably too early to collect quercus. Because, buds were triggered to swell by strong sun, the swelling buds use stored water in plant tissue while the plant is rushing to form new water transportation elements to "feed" the new growing buds with more water. If you collect quercus too early in spring, it is the case that you took away the chance for the tree to recover. Because, you can water it as much as you like, there's no way that water can reach green growth or new buds. So the tree will be weak for some time, and eventualy, die. That is the reason that some people collect quercus later in the season. Even it is better to collect it in June or July and to leaf cut it totally to prevent dehidration as a result of excesive transpiration in full summer. By that time, the new water tubes in the trunk will be fully active and the tree will have a chance to survive. Bottom line, I don't like quercus very much. Very very difficult animal :)
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One more thing...we experimentally tried to collect qerc in the middle of summer this year and to leaf cut. All this plants are ok untill now and bud strongly everywhere on the trunks. We'll se what the future will bring.
ReplyDeletesebastian ...a very professional answer - thanks for that ;-) i try this with the oaks in the same way here ... i like it very much cause its a truely german tree ...with a long history in our country and I like the branching and the bark very much ... anyway ... i cut some thick oaks back in summer and cut also the to superficial roots in the depth of a handsaw length so when I dig them out I only have to cut the tap roots and new roots have buildet in the near superficial trunkaereas. With your professional tip of digging out in the late spring i think they will have a real chance to survive.
ReplyDeleteA lot of luck and a good look for great trees by your yamadoritour.
saludos
avicenna